mikey's Thread of Penguin Randomness

Postby **Factorial** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:54 pm

I'd pay the arbitration award and reassess next summer.

Postby **Jim** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:54 pm

Sheary at 4 million makes him expendable, maybe in a trade for that 3C. However Dumo is a must lock up, I'd prefer to see him get a 4 or 5 year deal at least.
I realize that 3C is the most important position in all of hockey, but if you move Sheary who are the Pens top 6 LWs?

Hagelin doesn't count...
Why doesn't Hagelin count?
Jake-Sid-Horny
Hagelin-Geno-Phil

Hagelin doesn't count because he is not a top-6 player. At all. He is a really good 3rd liner that can not transition upwards.

Postby **Lemon Berry Lobster** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:56 pm

Sheary at 4 million makes him expendable, maybe in a trade for that 3C. However Dumo is a must lock up, I'd prefer to see him get a 4 or 5 year deal at least.
I realize that 3C is the most important position in all of hockey, but if you move Sheary who are the Pens top 6 LWs?

Hagelin doesn't count...
Why doesn't Hagelin count?
Jake-Sid-Horny
Hagelin-Geno-Phil
Hagelin doesn't count because he is not a top-6 player. At all. He is a really good 3rd liner that can not transition upwards.

And Sheary breaks down after a while and gets scratched for a few games at a time. What does that make him?

YouTube · Postby **mikey** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:57 pm

A rotational top-six player.

Postby **Silentom** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:58 pm

Postby **columbia** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:04 pm

Sesition can play LW.
problem solved

Postby **dodint** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:06 pm

If Sheary gets $4m from arbitration I hope the team walks.
That's not how it works. If it goes to arbitration, the team wins, or he wins. He's a Pen either way. You don't get to say no
Negative, captain. If it's above a certain AAV, teams have the right to walk...

My understanding is $3.5m plus a cap adjustment proration, so around $3.6m.

Hence my comment about walking away from $4m.

Postby **count2infinity** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:07 pm

Thomas Vanek is still available...

Postby **Troy Loney** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:09 pm

Sheary at $4M for one year is manageable, so I doubt they'd walk away from the arbitration, but that would likely ensure that 2018 is his last season on the Pens.

Postby **meow** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:10 pm

Thomas Vanek is still available...

For good reason

Postby **Silentom** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:11 pm

I forgot he was a thing.

Postby **columbia** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:13 pm

TIL that Gaborik still has a long ways to go on that contract.

Postby **count2infinity** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:16 pm

It's odd looking at career earnings of "active" NHL players and seeing Chris Pronger with a coyotes logo next to him at #2.

Postby **Lemon Berry Lobster** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:24 pm

His contract just ran out so he shouldn't be deemed as active.

Postby **count2infinity** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:29 pm

It was by the end of the 2017 season, so if you were "active" in 2017, you were on the list. Well, him... not you.

Postby **willeyeam** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:38 pm

If Sheary gets $4m from arbitration I hope the team walks.
That's not how it works. If it goes to arbitration, the team wins, or he wins. He's a Pen either way. You don't get to say no
Negative, captain. If it's above a certain AAV, teams have the right to walk...

Hmph well I stand corrected

Postby **Spangler** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:40 pm

Looking at Connor McDavid's cap hit and other big contracts, it's amazing how much of a bargain we are getting for Sid.

Postby **nocera** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:44 pm

Looking at Connor McDavid's cap hit and other big contracts, it's amazing how much of a bargain we are getting for Sid.

And Geno. Malkin and Sid's cap hit is about 18.2 mil combined.

Postby **Gaucho** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:45 pm

Oh yes.

Postby **Jim** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 5:25 pm

Hagelin doesn't count because he is not a top-6 player. At all. He is a really good 3rd liner that can not transition upwards.
And Sheary breaks down after a while and gets scratched for a few games at a time. What does that make him?

... a better top 6 option than Hagelin.

YouTube · Postby **mikey** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 5:26 pm

That's very correct.

Postby **shmenguin** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:10 pm

shmeguin has the boner for Sheary.

Yep. Very tumescent.

He had 2-3 weeks in the playoffs where he was dogshit. The rest of his time here, 4 mill is appropriate. And the dogshit weeks were chalked up to personal problems. When he came back, he did great. So maybe pro athletes are humans who can suck sometimes because they have a whole other life to deal with?

Or it's possible he just kinda lost it for a while and he might not ever get it back.

Either way, he's performed well. And this is the 2017 Cap. Not the 2006 cap. 4 mill isn't ziggy palffy money. We'll survive if he dips to the contributions of a lowlife 3.5 mill player.

Postby **shafnutz05** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:28 pm

Yes, it's imperative to keep realigning your sense of salary as the cap moves. I'd be fine with $3.5-$4 mil

Postby **DigitalGypsy66** » Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:03 am

https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status ... 4329846784

Tocchet to the desert...?

Postby **Silentom** » Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:03 am

That poor man...