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Postby Lemon Berry Lobster » Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:38 am

Caps GM said Kuznetsov threatened to go the KHL for two years and come back as an UFA, hence the big pay day. If there was any wonder why they are rotten there's your proof. You'd have to think that's something that teammates wouldn't be too happy about.

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Postby Silentom » Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:41 am

If true, that's lame. Dude doesn't care about winning, he just wants paid.

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Postby dodint » Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:45 am

Like Bonino?

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Postby columbia » Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:45 am

:pop:

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Postby Jim » Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:47 am

My one co-worker who is a wings fan, and enjoys hot takes on most things says we severely overpaid for Schultz.
"severely" is a bit much, but she isn't wrong in concept.
9 d-men scored 50 or more points last year. He's paid market value which if we look at the contracts handed out so far is just fine. We can't expect every player to take a discount just because.
Some people like to look at more than just the "What have you done for me lately" concept. it is the same as when someone has a slip in production and everyone wants to trade them away. Same thing, just other side.

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Postby count2infinity » Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:48 am

I find it difficult to fault anyone looking to get paid.

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Postby Jim » Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:49 am

Green and Orpik on the same pair would have been GREAT to watch.

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Postby NTP66 » Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:50 am

Caps fans are irate that they haven't traded Orpik yet, or at least bought him out.

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Postby Silentom » Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:55 am

Like Bonino?
At least he's won something. Or even participated in an ECF.

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Postby Silentom » Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:56 am

Caps fans are irate that they haven't traded Orpik yet, or at least bought him out.
It brings me joy to see them whine about him constantly. Still got two more years, lol.

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Postby Pavel Bure » Mon Jul 03, 2017 12:06 pm

My one co-worker who is a wings fan, and enjoys hot takes on most things says we severely overpaid for Schultz.
"severely" is a bit much, but she isn't wrong in concept.
9 d-men scored 50 or more points last year. He's paid market value which if we look at the contracts handed out so far is just fine. We can't expect every player to take a discount just because.
Some people like to look at more than just the "What have you done for me lately" concept. it is the same as when someone has a slip in production and everyone wants to trade them away. Same thing, just other side.
I don't think that's a good comparison. A slip in production has history to back it up. Where the market is now has teams paying for the future with RFAs. At 4.5 that's a steal for the Pens. Under 6 but more than 4.5 is market value. 6 or above is UFA money currently.

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Postby NTP66 » Mon Jul 03, 2017 12:09 pm

Schultz is now the 28th highest paid defenseman in the league, and has the same cap hit as Brooks Orpik. Here's the full list.

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Postby Jim » Mon Jul 03, 2017 12:10 pm

My one co-worker who is a wings fan, and enjoys hot takes on most things says we severely overpaid for Schultz.
"severely" is a bit much, but she isn't wrong in concept.
9 d-men scored 50 or more points last year. He's paid market value which if we look at the contracts handed out so far is just fine. We can't expect every player to take a discount just because.
Some people like to look at more than just the "What have you done for me lately" concept. it is the same as when someone has a slip in production and everyone wants to trade them away. Same thing, just other side.
I don't think that's a good comparison. A slip in production has history to back it up. Where the market is now has teams paying for the future with RFAs. At 4.5 that's a steal for the Pens. Under 6 but more than 4.5 is market value. 6 or above is UFA money currently.
He took a 50% pay cut last year for a reason, because his history was poo-poo. He then had one good 3/4-1/2 season. In the analogy they would have the same amount of history so I am not sure why they don't compare... but it isn't a big deal.

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Postby joopen » Mon Jul 03, 2017 12:22 pm

Well I can assure you all the GMJR is not doing anything at the moment since I am looking right at him in my showroom lol.

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Postby mikey » Mon Jul 03, 2017 12:23 pm

What is he being shown? Or is this like an Eyes Wide Shut kind of room...?

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Postby joopen » Mon Jul 03, 2017 12:26 pm

What is he being shown? Or is this like an Eyes Wide Shut kind of room...?
He is in for service on his car. He grew up neighbors with one of our sales managers.

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Postby Pavel Bure » Mon Jul 03, 2017 12:29 pm


"severely" is a bit much, but she isn't wrong in concept.
9 d-men scored 50 or more points last year. He's paid market value which if we look at the contracts handed out so far is just fine. We can't expect every player to take a discount just because.
Some people like to look at more than just the "What have you done for me lately" concept. it is the same as when someone has a slip in production and everyone wants to trade them away. Same thing, just other side.
I don't think that's a good comparison. A slip in production has history to back it up. Where the market is now has teams paying for the future with RFAs. At 4.5 that's a steal for the Pens. Under 6 but more than 4.5 is market value. 6 or above is UFA money currently.
He took a 50% pay cut last year for a reason, because his history was poo-poo. He then had one good 3/4-1/2 season. In the analogy they would have the same amount of history so I am not sure why they don't compare... but it isn't a big deal.
That's called a prove it deal. If 50 points is half a season then what's he going to do with a full season?

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Postby LITT » Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:19 pm

whats the word with duchene

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Postby mikey » Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:22 pm

I can't imagine we're close...

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Postby llipgh2 » Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:31 pm

Like Bonino?
At least he's won something. Or even participated in an ECF.
Bob McKenzie posted about getting a tax break in Nashville as well. He has two Cups, so why not go some place and get to keep more of the big paycheck.

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Postby joopen » Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:49 pm

I can't imagine we're close...
He didnt offer anything on the 3C. He was shocked by Price contract. Just could not believe it

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Postby mikey » Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:50 pm

Goalies... :roll:
Also, thanks joopen :thumb:

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Postby meow » Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:51 pm

Did he ask to have his bead pad replaced?

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Postby joopen » Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:54 pm

Did he ask to have his bead pad replaced?

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Nah his was still in good shape. He did leave his blinker on as he left tho haha

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Postby meow » Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:56 pm

Nice of you to not take advantage of the elderly. I'm sure he tipped these to you as he left.

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