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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:19 pm
by meow
Explain to me what is going on like I'm 5 years old.
lolololol. He is my Rep. He lives like 1/3 mile from me
Dude seems to deserve better than having to represent you.
Ah ah ah. He is blessed enough to represent me. I voted for him anyway.

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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:20 pm
by Willie Kool
Once in a lifetime buying opportunities in the banking sector today...

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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:22 pm
by Gaucho


lolololol. He is my Rep. He lives like 1/3 mile from me
:o

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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:23 pm
by meow
Once in a lifetime buying opportunities in the banking sector today...
Tell me how to get rich

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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:24 pm
by Dickie Dunn
I do disagree that this isn't a bailout for the bank executives. Knowing that they can **** up as hard as they want and get to hit the reset button is a bailout, if not in the direct financial sense.
Executives responsible for this **** should be banned from the industry and BoD positions. The risk management **** ups would have to omit their tenure from their resume to find another job. Executives always get golden parachutes of varying degrees of **** you money and, after enough time has passed to remove their name from the headlines, pity **** Board positions.

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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:28 pm
by mac5155
Yeah. Had no idea this wasn't being taxpayer funded.
There is $128bn in the Feds insurance fund.

The bank had $209bn in assets at time of Fed seizure.

I'm not sure how much the insurance fund needs to have to cover these but it would seem as if it could be completely depleted in the blink of an eye before "all deposits" are guaranteed.

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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:29 pm
by mac5155
Once in a lifetime buying opportunities in the banking sector today...
Unless you're a broke millennial going through the second financial crisis in your adult life before even turning 40

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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:30 pm
by Dickie Dunn
Once in a lifetime buying opportunities in the banking sector today...
Tell me how to get rich
PNC, Truist, Bank of America, and US Bancorp are at 52 week lows today for basically no reason.

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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:42 pm
by Troy Loney
I do disagree that this isn't a bailout for the bank executives. Knowing that they can **** up as hard as they want and get to hit the reset button is a bailout, if not in the direct financial sense.
Executives responsible for this **** should be banned from the industry and BoD positions. The risk management **** ups would have to omit their tenure from their resume to find another job. Executives always get golden parachutes of varying degrees of **** you money and, after enough time has passed to remove their name from the headlines, pity **** Board positions.
My first inclination was to blame the risk management folks. But, talked to my client today, this seems like business model idiocy, and why creating a bank to cater to start ups is stupid. From what I can tell, their risk was their proportion of non-FDIC insured deposits. All banks are taking hits from the treasury bond prices, but this idiotic bank was uniquely vulnerable to a run due to their clientele.

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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:49 pm
by faftorial

My first inclination was to blame the risk management folks. But, talked to my client today, this seems like business model idiocy, and why creating a bank to cater to start ups is stupid. From what I can tell, their risk was their proportion of non-FDIC insured deposits. All banks are taking hits from the treasury bond prices, but this idiotic bank was uniquely vulnerable to a run due to their clientele.
Isn't that where regulation comes into play? Sounds like they set themselves up for failure.

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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 3:37 pm
by Troy Loney

My first inclination was to blame the risk management folks. But, talked to my client today, this seems like business model idiocy, and why creating a bank to cater to start ups is stupid. From what I can tell, their risk was their proportion of non-FDIC insured deposits. All banks are taking hits from the treasury bond prices, but this idiotic bank was uniquely vulnerable to a run due to their clientele.
Isn't that where regulation comes into play? Sounds like they set themselves up for failure.
That's a good question I guess. Looks like this Trump regulatory roll back from 2018 removed stress testing requirements for banks under $250B in assets (SVB). Not sure what happens if a stress tell your regional bank that is vulnerable to a bank run, like, does that mandate something?

I don't deal with financial risk, I know how banks are supposed to tackle things like liquidity, credit, and market risk. But I don't know how the mitigate those risks holistically.

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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 3:55 pm
by Sam's Drunk Dog
Per Matt Levine of Bloomberg:

As the bank for start-ups, which have a lot of cash from investors and the initial public offering of stock, SVB had lots of deposits. But start-up companies don’t need much in the way of loans because they’ve just gotten so much cash and they don’t yet have fixed assets. So, rather than balancing deposits with loans that fluctuate with interest rates and thus keep a bank on an even keel, SVB’s directors took a gamble that the Federal Reserve would not raise interest rates. They invested in long-term Treasury bonds that paid better interest rates than short-term securities. But when, in fact, interest rates went up, the value of those long-term bonds sank.

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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 3:57 pm
by Troy Loney
Per Matt Levine of Bloomberg:

As the bank for start-ups, which have a lot of cash from investors and the initial public offering of stock, SVB had lots of deposits. But start-up companies don’t need much in the way of loans because they’ve just gotten so much cash and they don’t yet have fixed assets. So, rather than balancing deposits with loans that fluctuate with interest rates and thus keep a bank on an even keel, SVB’s directors took a gamble that the Federal Reserve would not raise interest rates. They invested in long-term Treasury bonds that paid better interest rates than short-term securities. But when, in fact, interest rates went up, the value of those long-term bonds sank.
See, Fed's fault

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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 3:57 pm
by meow
Can we firing squad that person? It’ll help the average IQ in the country

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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 3:59 pm
by NTP66
You see, it's the Fed's fault for what the bank invested in.

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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:39 pm
by mac5155
So why is that allowed

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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:14 pm
by mikey
Because it generally doesn't matter what's "allowed" and what's not...things are just going to happen because the people getting the richest off of this aren't going to regulate themselves out of getting rich...

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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:29 pm
by mac5155
So it wasn't the Trump policy repeal is what I'm getting at.

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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:38 pm
by Shyster
You see, it's the Fed's fault for what the bank invested in.



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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:39 pm
by faftorial
lol

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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:39 pm
by mac5155
Because it seems to me like the 2018 (bipartisan) regulation change is just a hindsight is 20/20 thing.

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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:40 pm
by Troy Loney
Because it seems to me like the 2018 (bipartisan) regulation change is just a hindsight is 20/20 thing.
Increasing the asset threshold for “systemically important financial institutions” or, “SIFIs,” from $50 billion to $250 billion.
This is the big one where the rule change contributed to the collapse

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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:41 pm
by faftorial
"They got me addicted, it's their fault."

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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:43 pm
by MR25
Because it seems to me like the 2018 (bipartisan) regulation change is just a hindsight is 20/20 thing.

It's probably not THE issue, but let's not act like it didn't contribute to the situation.

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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:44 pm
by faftorial
Because it seems to me like the 2018 (bipartisan) regulation change is just a hindsight is 20/20 thing.

It's probably not THE issue, but let's not act like it didn't contribute to the situation.
It's the fed's fault dude. They're like drug dealers preying on your children to get addicted to low rates.