Politics And Current Events

Postby **Silentom** » Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:28 pm

Make Wisconsin Great Again.

Postby **Shyster** » Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:11 pm

Don't see how the Paradise DA can justify not bring charges against this cop.
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/12/15/offi ... e-charges/

That is complete and total bullcrap. The cop-sucking DA says that he doesn't think the cop willfully, intentionally or purposefully pulled the trigger, and therefore no charges. But that completely ignores the fact that negligent homicide is also a crime. California's definition of involuntary manslaughter, for example, applies to the "killing of a human being without malice" which occurs "in the commission of a lawful act which might produce death, in an unlawful manner, or without due caution and circumspection." A cop pulling a gun and pointing it at someone would be an act that "might produce death," and shooting the victim of a violent car crash would be something done without due caution. That cop should have been charged with involuntary manslaughter. He never should have pulled his gun to begin with, and he certainly should have kept his finger off the trigger.

Postby **dodint** » Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:19 pm

That's terrible.

How is he not charged for being a first responder and not helping the dying passenger or the guy he shot?

I don't advocate for vigilante justice but, you could understand...

Postby **ExPatriatePen** » Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:13 pm

Where is the outrage from the BLM folks? Where is the PotUS or the USAG speaking out.

Oh right, the driver was Caucasian. They won't address the issue of abuse of power because of the race of the victim.

But that's not racist. Hmmmmmmm.

Postby **Factorial** » Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:35 pm

Reverse racism or out-and-out racism?

Edit to add: The stake that sticks up gets hammered down.

Postby **Willie Kool** » Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:36 pm

Don't see how the Paradise DA can justify not bring charges against this cop.
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/12/15/offi ... e-charges/
That is complete and total bullcrap. The cop-sucking DA says that he doesn't think the cop willfully, intentionally or purposefully pulled the trigger, and therefore no charges. But that completely ignores the fact that negligent homicide is also a crime. California's definition of involuntary manslaughter, for example, applies to the "killing of a human being without malice" which occurs "in the commission of a lawful act which might produce death, in an unlawful manner, or without due caution and circumspection." A cop pulling a gun and pointing it at someone would be an act that "might produce death," and shooting the victim of a violent car crash would be something done without due caution. That cop should have been charged with involuntary manslaughter. He never should have pulled his gun to begin with, and he certainly should have kept his finger off the trigger.

The shooting victim survived, but may be permanently paralyzed. Don't know if that then qualifies as assault, but he should be able to sue civilly for damages based on the officer's gross negligence.

Postby **Factorial** » Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:39 pm

The shooting victim survived, but may be permanently paralyzed. Don't know if that then qualifies as assault, but he should be able to sue civilly for damages based on the officer's gross negligence.

Hopefully the state or feds will intervene and take over this case.

Postby **Willie Kool** » Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:42 pm

being a first responder and not helping the dying passenger or the guy he shot

Yeah, that's where this 'accident' story falls apart. He should never work as a cop again.

Postby **shmenguin** » Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:46 pm

Where is the outrage from the BLM folks?

...and the league of women voters remains suspiciously silent. Not to mention the teachers unions and the Freemasons. And where does Goodell stand on this?

Postby **Willie Kool** » Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:52 pm

The shooting victim survived, but may be permanently paralyzed. Don't know if that then qualifies as assault, but he should be able to sue civilly for damages based on the officer's gross negligence.
Hopefully the state or feds will intervene and take over this case.

On what charges?

“Without being able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that there was a conscious, intentional, willful pulling of the trigger, there are no criminal charges that can be filed under California law for the negligent discharge of a weapon resulting in injury, no matter how horrible, as long as there is not a death,” Ramsey said.

http://www.actionnewsnow.com/news/d-a-m ... -protests/

Looks like something the Ca. legislature needs to address.

Postby **MWB** » Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:58 pm

Where is the outrage from the BLM folks?
...and the league of women voters remains suspiciously silent. Not to mention the teachers unions and the Freemasons. And where does Goodell stand on this?

Goodell thinks that it's Brady's fault.

Postby **Factorial** » Thu Dec 17, 2015 9:23 pm

Dick Morris is doing commercials for a retirement fund.

Postby **shafnutz05** » Thu Dec 17, 2015 9:33 pm

That police shooting is hideous...Jesus. Like something out of The Departed.

This was "amusing":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJVZa9_Ha5c

Postby **MR25** » Thu Dec 17, 2015 9:37 pm

If by amusing, you mean infuriating, then yes.

Postby **Factorial** » Thu Dec 17, 2015 9:38 pm

Rich kids are dumb.

Postby **Lelldorin** » Fri Dec 18, 2015 3:12 am

With that said I am grateful that you have chosen to take that responsibility even though you get a lot of crap for it...
Don't expect a "you're welcome" from EPP.

Yeah, I am fully aware of that

I just thought I should mention that many countries probably should be grateful and that it is probably quite useful for your large companies that you are the most powerful country in the world.

But I was aware that I could just be stirring the pot as well :/

Postby **Guinness** » Fri Dec 18, 2015 5:10 am

With that said I am grateful that you have chosen to take that responsibility even though you get a lot of crap for it...

Postby **Gaucho** » Fri Dec 18, 2015 6:12 am

Thank you for protecting my freedom, Guinness!

Postby **Lelldorin** » Fri Dec 18, 2015 6:25 am

Thank you for protecting my freedom, Guinness!

Postby **NTP66** » Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:21 am

Edit to add: The stake that sticks up gets hammered down.

I'm totally stealing this line.

Postby **tifosi77** » Fri Dec 18, 2015 3:15 pm

Shooter’s Neighbor Plotted Terror Attacks on 91 Freeway, Riverside College in 2011: DOJ

Enrique Marquez, the longtime neighbor and friend of San Bernardino shooter Syed Rizwan Farook, not only purchased two weapons used by Farook and his wife Tashfeen Malik in the Dec. 2 massacre, but also plotted with Farook several years earlier to carry out a similar attack at Riverside Community College or on the 91 Freeway, according to federal prosecutors.

Postby **skullman80** » Fri Dec 18, 2015 4:09 pm

The thing is he told them he planned to do a terror attack with Farook years prior, but they waited to arrest him until now? Makes no sense.

Postby **tifosi77** » Fri Dec 18, 2015 4:13 pm

Law enforcement is clairvoyant. They only learned of these plans after analyzing electronic devices following the shooting and Marquez's questioning.

Postby **skullman80** » Fri Dec 18, 2015 4:38 pm

Law enforcement is clairvoyant. They only learned of these plans after analyzing electronic devices following the shooting and Marquez's questioning.

I meant when they interviewed him after the San Bernadino shooting, didn't he fess up right away that him and Farook planned a terror plot a few years earlier, but then didn't do it because other people got caught or something? I didn't understand why they did or couldn't arrest him right then and there....

Postby **tifosi77** » Fri Dec 18, 2015 5:18 pm

As far as I know, all he admitted to initially was giving the guns to Farook. The breadth of their ties and the detailed plans they cooked up were only learned through subsequent investigation. (Marquez waived Miranda in his initial interrogations)

Marquez was also subject to an involuntary 72-hour mental health hold immediately after the incident. I'm not sure how that impacts law enforcement's ability to make an arrest, as the suspect is already detained, after a fashion.