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Postby tifosi77 » Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:32 pm

Give them a break on the healthcare thing; it's not like they've had over half a decade to prepare for this.

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Postby eddy » Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:44 pm

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Postby Factorial » Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:51 pm

7+ years to come up with a plan or, as they did 50+ times, just outright repeal it, and they fail. :lol:

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Postby count2infinity » Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:43 pm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... a6a6a56618
“Donald Trump: The ‘Apprentice’ is a television smash!” the big headline said. Above the Time nameplate, there was another headline in all caps: “TRUMP IS HITTING ON ALL FRONTS . . . EVEN TV!”
This cover — dated March 1, 2009 — looks like an impressive memento from Trump’s pre-presidential career. To club members eating lunch, or golfers waiting for a pro-shop purchase, it seemed to be a signal that Trump had always been a man who mattered. Even when he was just a reality-TV star, Trump was the kind of star who got a cover story in Time.
But that wasn’t true.
The Time cover is a fake.
There was no March 1, 2009, issue of Time Magazine. And there was no issue at all in 2009 that had Trump on the cover.
...
“I can confirm that this is not a real TIME cover,” Kerri Chyka, a spokeswoman for Time Inc., wrote in an email to The Washington Post.
I'd feel bad for how insecure of a human being he was if it weren't for the fact that he was president and rich.

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Postby tifosi77 » Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:52 pm

That reminds me of the time when I was like nine years old and had my mug on the cover of 'Sport' magazine.

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Postby eddy » Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:40 pm

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Postby columbia » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:39 pm

Soooooooo...that repeal and replace thing isn't going so well.


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Postby columbia » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:53 pm

Every one my elected representatives is a Republican, including our mayor (for whom I voted).

Don't blame me for these clowns. ;)

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Postby Gaucho » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:59 pm

I registered on facebook a few hours ago ... and now I'm reading facebook hit two billion users today. Hmmm ...

Unregister?

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Postby Algernon » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:11 pm

I still don't have FB

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Postby Gaucho » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:34 pm

I only registered because I thought it might be useful for my work. I'm probably wrong about that.

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Postby Kaiser » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:45 pm

Facebook is just an endless stream of ads, autoplaying videos of dumb s***, right and left political posts with 100% anger and 0% insight or facts, and blatant phishing "quizzes".

You might as well try using Pornhub to help with your job.

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Postby Gaucho » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:52 pm

Who says I didn't?

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Postby columbia » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:54 pm

:pop:

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Postby AuthorTony » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:54 pm

Facebook has become usable again for me after unfollowing 70% of my "friends".

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Postby tifosi77 » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:10 pm

Pro-Trump Group Pulls Heller Ad After Backlash
A political group aligned with President Donald Trump is pulling its ad targeting a Republican senator for opposing the GOP health care plan, following a backlash from lawmakers who criticized the group for going after a member of their own party.

America First Policies had television ads on the air targeting one Republican and eight Democrats on repealing and replacing the Affordable Care Act. The group’s decision to target GOP Sen. Dean Heller of Nevada after he said he would not support the bill drew sharp criticism from Senate Republicans. Politico first reported Tuesday evening that the group is pulling the ad and a spokeswoman confirmed the move.

Heller is arguably the most vulnerable GOP senator running for re-election in 2018, since he is the only Republican running in a state that Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton won in 2016.

The decision to pull the ad appeared to happen quickly. A spokeswoman for the group said shortly before 4 p.m. that the ads would continue despite Senate leadership’s decision Tuesday to delay a vote on the party’s health care plan. Republican senators then gathered at the White house at 4 p.m. to discuss the health care bill.
Tl;dr Trumpsters wanted to play hardball with wishy washy NV Senator, ended up encouraging more GOP Senators to pull support for the healthcare bill.

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Postby grunthy » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:30 pm

Too bad the lobby firmly has their grips on all the lawmakers, otherwise we could reduce premiums a lot by not subsidizing the whole world in drug prices. It would be a pretty easy fix, allow Medicare to negotiate all drug prices to drop the cost.

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Postby Factorial » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:32 pm

Too bad the lobby firmly has their grips on all the lawmakers, otherwise we could reduce premiums a lot by not subsidizing the whole world in drug prices. It would be a pretty easy fix, allow Medicare to negotiate all drug prices to drop the cost.
I agree Bernie.

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Postby Willie Kool » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:34 pm

Too bad the lobby firmly has their grips on all the lawmakers, otherwise we could reduce premiums a lot by not subsidizing the whole world in drug prices. It would be a pretty easy fix, allow Medicare to negotiate all drug prices to drop the cost.
:thumb: But why not just take that all the way with Medicare for all?

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Postby Factorial » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:37 pm

:thumb: But why not just take that all the way with Medicare for all?
20% tax rates?

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Postby grunthy » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:39 pm

Too bad the lobby firmly has their grips on all the lawmakers, otherwise we could reduce premiums a lot by not subsidizing the whole world in drug prices. It would be a pretty easy fix, allow Medicare to negotiate all drug prices to drop the cost.
:thumb: But why not just take that all the way with Medicare for all?

Because I don't trust the government to run my healthcare, and I like being able to see a doctor right away and get treatment, not waiting for months like Canada or England. Also I don't enjoy giving my money to the government.

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Postby Willie Kool » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:40 pm

:thumb: But why not just take that all the way with Medicare for all?
20% tax rates?
And no insurance premiums for you or your employer.

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Postby grunthy » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:45 pm

:thumb: But why not just take that all the way with Medicare for all?
20% tax rates?
And no insurance premiums for you or your employer.

Yeah. I would pay more for shittier coverage. No thanks.

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Postby Willie Kool » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:55 pm

Bernie’s plan will cost over $6 trillion less than the current health care system over the next ten years.

The United States currently spends $3 trillion on health care each year—nearly $10,000 per person. Reforming our health care system, simplifying our payment structure and incentivizing new ways to make sure patients are actually getting better health care will generate massive savings. This plan has been estimated to save the American people and businesses over $6 trillion over the next decade.

The typical middle class family would save over $5,000 under this plan.

Last year, the average working family paid $4,955 in premiums and $1,318 in deductibles to private health insurance companies. Under this plan, a family of four earning $50,000 would pay just $466 per year to the single-payer program, amounting to a savings of over $5,800 for that family each year.

Businesses would save over $9,400 a year in health care costs for the average employee.

The average annual cost to the employer for a worker with a family who makes $50,000 a year would go from $12,591 to just $3,100.


HOW MUCH WILL IT COST?

This plan has been estimated to cost $1.38 trillion per year.

THE PLAN WOULD BE FULLY PAID FOR BY:

A 6.2 percent income-based health care premium paid by employers.

Revenue raised: $630 billion per year.


A 2.2 percent income-based premium paid by households.

Revenue raised: $210 billion per year.This year, a family of four taking the standard deduction can have income up to $28,800 and not pay this tax under this plan.A family of four making $50,000 a year taking the standard deduction would only pay $466 this year.


Progressive income tax rates.

Revenue raised: $110 billion a year.

Under this plan the marginal income tax rate would be:

37 percent on income between $250,000 and $500,000.
43 percent on income between $500,000 and $2 million.
48 percent on income between $2 million and $10 million. (In 2013, only 113,000 households, the top 0.08 percent of taxpayers, had income between $2 million and $10 million.)
52 percent on income above $10 million. (In 2013, only 13,000 households, just 0.01 percent of taxpayers, had income exceeding $10 million.)


Taxing capital gains and dividends the same as income from work.

Revenue raised: $92 billion per year.

Warren Buffett, the second wealthiest American in the country, has said that he pays a lower effective tax rate than his secretary. The reason is that he receives most of his income from capital gains and dividends, which are taxed at a much lower rate than income from work. This plan will end the special tax break for capital gains and dividends on household income above $250,000.


Limit tax deductions for rich.

Revenue raised: $15 billion per year. Under Bernie’s plan, households making over $250,000 would no longer be able to save more than 28 cents in taxes from every dollar in tax deductions. This limit would replace more complicated and less effective limits on tax breaks for the rich including the AMT, the personal exemption phase-out and the limit on itemized deductions.


The Responsible Estate Tax.

Revenue raised: $21 billion per year.This provision would tax the estates of the wealthiest 0.3 percent (three-tenths of 1 percent) of Americans who inherit over $3.5 million at progressive rates and close loopholes in the estate tax.


Savings from health tax expenditures.

Revenue raised: $310 billion per year. Several tax breaks that subsidize health care (health-related “tax expenditures”) would become obsolete and disappear under a single-payer health care system, saving $310 billion per year.Most importantly, health care provided by employers is compensation that is not subject to payroll taxes or income taxes under current law. This is a significant tax break that would effectively disappear under this plan because all Americans would receive health care through the new single-payer program instead of employer-based health care.
https://berniesanders.com/issues/medicare-for-all/
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